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A Conversation About Seduction

Written By The Mountain Eagle on 5/27/24 | 5/27/24

By Jean Thomas

Humans whine and complain about the weather. Plants, not so much. Their viewpoint is this: “we only have a short time to do this, so let’s get it on!”  Reproduction is, after all, the real purpose of flowers and fruit. Humans look at the beauty of flowers and anticipate the flavors of produce. We encourage our favorites among the plant kingdom, and bemoan the competition from the unwanted, AKA “weeds.” This is where the seduction comes in.There is a particular group of plants that has mastered the art of seduction, not of their own kind, but of humans. Right now, as I walk the dog, I am delighted by the aroma of honeysuckles in great billowing waves coming from thick shrubbery. The honeysuckle finishes its perfumery and starts making berries at the same time that the multiflora rose starts in with the same strategy. The rose is a double threat, because it produces a gorgeous scent and looks beautiful with its clusters of small white roses massing and covering the whole plant. 

Less ostentatious but equally successful are the burning bush and the barberry. Both produce small beautiful flowers that we don’t notice as much as the others, but they have won our hearts with their foliage and usefulness as hedge and display plants. Sadly, the above are all considered noxious plants in as many as forty four states. They’re kind of glamorous mobsters. Here’s the reason. Each has bad manners. They all rudely infringe on the territory of the native plants and can interfere with the plans we humans have for the land. 

 In no particular order, here are the details: among the varieties of honeysuckle, the villainous one is the Japanese honeysuckle. It was imported for its beauty and robustness, then “escaped.”  The problem is that all those sweet smelling flowers quickly become berries and are transported by birds. They get big and healthy and crowd out native plants that are healthier for the birds to eat. Another escapee from cultivation is the multiflora rose. This was actually introduced for farmers and advertised and sold by the government. Until it began to run amok. In flowering season you can see pretty clusters of white flowering shrubs dotting pastures everywhere. Nothing eats it, it’s pretty disease resistant, and it has to be pulled out with tractors once it reaches a certain size.  Don’t be fooled when a baby pops up in your garden. They are vicious. I call them the “mean roses” because their thorns are so aggressive. The burning bush and the barberry are also introduced species. Do you see a trend here? They are wonderful plants until they start to colonize. A baby barberry can have a fearful bite when the unwary gardener grabs one. The burning bush when not supervised will make an impenetrable clump of woody vegetation.  Both will make armies of seedlings and interrupt the normal life cycle of a field or forest.

The topic of invasives is a large one. I’m just touching on a few that are beauties and beasts at the same time. Your local Cornell Cooperative Extension will have pages of information, and the podcast “Nature Calls, Conversations from the Hudson Valley” has several episodes addressing various facets of dealing with the problems they bring. 


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Whittling Away with Dick Brooks - Political Changes

Watching the news tonight was interesting.  It was all about the government shutting down because they can’t come to an agreement on anything.  It was interesting that it was on the news since they don’t seem to have accomplished much in the past decade or so.  I guess they had to announce it on television or else nobody would have noticed.  One of the women that they interviewed commented on the fact that they were acting like children.  I beg to differ with her, she left out the “badly behaved” that should have preceded the word children.  My students learned or already knew about compromise.  You don’t get to be the line leader every time but if you’re patient you’ll get your turn.  They understood the premise that you have to give to get and that working together gets things done.

Congress has a 10% rating when it comes to their job performance, at least that is what it was before this latest debacle, Heaven only knows what it is now.  Do they have minus ratings?  I wish Will Rogers was still around, he would be having such a good time commenting on the present political situation.  I must not have been paying attention again.  Can someone tell me when all the Moderates moved out of Washington?  There used to be a lot of them there.  There were Moderate Democrats, Moderate Republicans, Moderate Liberals, Moderate Conservatives.  They all had one thing in common, the idea that “all things in moderation” was a pretty good plan.  They argued and tried to get their way but through the negation process they would reach a compromise.  Nobody getting all they wanted but everyone getting something and the Nation moved forward.  What happened to the Moderates?  They are still there but you can’t hear them any more because of the noise being made by the radicals on both sides.  The radicals are so loud, rude and abrasive that they seem to have cowed the majority of the Moderates.  They have bullied, threatened, pushed and shoved their way to the front of the line.  No compromise, take no prisoners, damn the torpedoes-full steam ahead, if I can’t have my way-I’m taking my ball and going home seems to be the pervasive attitude in Washington.  I think the only solution other than throwing the whole bunch out, even the Moderates because they’re letting the bullies push them around without speaking up, is to form a SWAT team and send it to Congress.  I would suggest including Mrs. Smith, my third grade teacher who wheeled the fastest knuckle rapping bird’s eye maple ruler in the school,  Mother Ursula, a devoted nun who could carry fifty pound sacks of potatoes under each arm,  Mr. Washburn, my high school History teacher who could hit you with an eraser from any spot in the room and Mrs. Beggs who wore a large ring which she used in a very effective upper cut to the ribs.  These were folks that taught me the art of compromise, the rules of politeness and how to work together.  We’ll put the SWAT team in a room near where Congress meets and if the Sergeant at Arms detects any lack of cooperation, rudeness, or bully like behavior, he can send the offender to the room for a review lesson in behavior she or she should have learned in Elementary school.

Thought for the week—I don’t make jokes, I just watch the government and report the facts.   –Will Rogers

Until next week, may you and yours be happy and well.

Whittle12124@yahoo.com          



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Interplay Artist Talk featuring Deborah Freedman, Janice La Motta and Amy Masters

Please join us at the gallery for a dynamic discussion with Deborah Freedman, Janice La Motta and Amy Masters about their process and the works included in Interplay. The event is free and open to the public on Sunday, May 26, 3-5pm at 1053 Galley at 1053 Main Street in Fleischmanns.


Deborah Freedman is a painter and printmaker whose work explores the tension between nature’s invisible physical force and a painterly, gestural, emotive interpretation. For the past 25 years, she’s been observing and drawing the Ashokan Reservoir and a pond near her home in the Hudson Valley. The collages in this exhibition are an investigation of a dreamlike landscape that is threatened. The pictorial space is warped or disturbed, echoing her disquiet about the instability of the environment—as if there is a hole in the world that needs to be healed. As an artist with monocular vision, this art form assists her in experiencing the water’s physicality in three dimensions. Her works resemble an eye, a geode, a womb, a portal or a bubbling cauldron. Recently she began adding the figure to the work, reclaiming her own body and integrating it into the landscape. The collages are also a reclamation of earlier work as she reuses sections of monoprints and paintings from 20 to 30 years ago.


Janice La Motta is a visual artist with an over forty-year career as a studio artist and arts administrator. She has balanced a career as a practicing artist while serving in the positions of museum curator, artistic director, nonprofit executive director and owner and director of a contemporary fine arts gallery that she ran successfully for eighteen years. 

Since 2020, she has been pursuing her studio practice full time. In October 2023 she returned to her love of gallery work and opened Art Bites Gallery, in High Falls, NY with her partner, artist Simon Draper. She lives and maintains a studio in High Falls, NY.



Amy Masters lives and works in New York City and The Catskills where she has her studio. She is a painter, printmaker and teacher. Her visual work often references the natural surroundings both inside and out and have been an ongoing source of inspiration. As an artist, she has exhibited widely, including New York City, Los Angeles, Maine and upstate New York. She is a founding member of Adhoc Collective, a group of local artists re-visioning the way artists think about and share work with their community. She was an artist-in-residence and a board member of the Heliker-Lohotan Foundation on Great Cranberry Island, Maine.


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Finkenberg Exhibit Coming to Gallery

Upstate Dispatch Gallery & Studio is thrilled to announce a much-awaited exhibition of the work of artist Sandy Finkenberg. Sandy’s gorgeous, dreamy nudes rendered in oil on board, all done at a local figure drawing group, are some of the Catskills’ most coveted pieces.

The figure drawing sessions take place every Wednesday from 4 – 7pm at the Andes Academy of Art throughout summer, and at ArtUp in Margaretville in the winter.

“It is with great excitement that I haul my plein air rig into this warm circle every week. Much is owed to William Duke and Gary Mayer, and to the professional models who further this vital practice. It kindles our spirits in this long-wintered Delaware County”, says Sandy, who is a long-time resident of the Catskills.

The Upstate Dispatch show will run from May 25th – June 22th , 2024. Open from 1pm – 4pm on Saturdays and Sundays, and by appointment. 

The reception for the artist will be held on May 25th, 2024 from 2pm – 6pm. 

Upstate Dispatch Gallery & Studio, The Commons Building, 2nd Floor, 785 Main Street, Margaretville, NY 12455.

About the artist:

Sandra Finkenberg studied at the Carnegie Mellon School of Art in Pittsburgh and the Art Students League in New York. She has received numerous awards including 2nd place at the Catherine Lorillard Wolfe Art Club (2003), Best of Show Cooperstown Regional (1997), and Best of Show and 2nd Place, UCCA Oneonta (now CANO) (1993 and 1992 respectively). Her egg tempera work was featured in the 2000 edition of American Artist Watercolor Magazine. She has shown in various national juried shows, notably in the Salmagundi Club invitational 2014, Cooperstown National. One person shows in New York State includes the Delaware Valley Arts Alliance in Narrowsburg, the Walt Meade Gallery in Roxbury, the Erpf Gallery in Arkville, CANO in Oneonta, Bright Hill Word and Image in Treadwell. 

“I am a simple real-life painter with a love of 19th century art. My favored medium of the last 15 years has been oil, specializing in plein air landscape, horses, and people”. 


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Local History with Dede Terns-Thorpe - Memorial Day

Memorial Day is an American holiday, observed on the last Monday of May, and honoring the men and women who died while serving in the U.S. military. Memorial Day is Monday, May 27.

Originally known as Decoration Day, it originated in the years just after the Civil War and became an official federal holiday in 1971. Many Americans observe Memorial Day by visiting cemeteries or memorials and participating in parades. 

The Birth of Memorial Day, otherwise known as Decoration Day.

The Civil War, which ended in the spring of 1865, claimed more lives than any conflict in U.S. history and required the establishment of the country’s first national cemeteries.

By the late 1860s, Americans in various towns and cities had begun holding springtime tributes to these countless fallen soldiers, decorating their graves with flowers and reciting prayers.

It is unclear where exactly this tradition originated; numerous different communities may have independently initiated the memorial gatherings. And some records show that one of the earliest Memorial Day commemorations was organized by a group of formerly enslaved people in Charleston, South Carolina less than a month after the Confederacy surrendered in 1865. Nevertheless, in 1966 the federal government declared Waterloo, New York, the official birthplace of Memorial Day.

Waterloo—which first celebrated the day on May 5, 1866—was chosen because it hosted an annual, community-wide event, during which businesses closed and residents decorated the graves of soldiers with flowers and flags.

Did you know? Each year on Memorial Day a national moment of remembrance takes place at 3:00 p.m. local time.

Decoration Day

On May 5, 1868, General John A. Logan, leader of an organization for Northern Civil War veterans, called for a nationwide day of remembrance later that month. “The 30th of May, 1868, is designated for the purpose of strewing with flowers, or otherwise decorating the graves of comrades who died in defense of their country during the late rebellion, and whose bodies now lie in almost every city, village, and hamlet churchyard in the land,” Logan proclaimed.

The date of Decoration Day, as he called it, was chosen because it wasn’t the anniversary of any particular battle.

On the first Decoration Day, General James Garfield made a speech at Arlington National Cemetery, and 5,000 participants decorated the graves of the 20,000 Civil War soldiers buried there.

Many Northern states held similar commemorative events and reprised the tradition in subsequent years; by 1890 each one had made Decoration Day an official state holiday. Southern states, on the other hand, continued to honor the dead-on separate days until after World War I.

Memorial Day, as Decoration Day gradually came to be known, originally honored only those lost while fighting in the Civil War. But during World War I the United States found itself embroiled in another major conflict, and the holiday evolved to commemorate American military personnel who died in all wars, including World War IIThe Vietnam WarThe Korean War and the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

For decades, Memorial Day continued to be observed on May 30, the date General Logan had selected for the first Decoration Day. But in 1968, Congress passed the Uniform Monday Holiday Act, which established Memorial Day as the last Monday in May. This went into effect in 1971. The same law also declared Memorial Day a federal holiday.

Thanks for reading. Stay safe and thank a Veteran for their service.

Dede Terns-Thorpe/Hunter Historian



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Let’s Catch Up… by Pat Larsen - The Best of Times

Something new…An Advice Column from Author and Columnist PAT LARSEN

For Baby Boomers and Seniors 

Look, the 50’s and 60’s were the best of times.

Am I right, Baby Boomers? 

So, let’s set the record straight…we may be getting older but we’re still here!  

We have questions about navigating this fast paced environment  and understanding how we can still contribute and remain relevant in an ever changing world. I’ve got lots of contacts that can help us understand it all.  

LETS CATCH UP can mean…learning something new OR

LETS CATCH UP by sharing a memory  from “back in the day.”

Think of it as “your column” too.  

By taking a moment to ask a question,

You’re also helping those in our generation to learn or reminisce or even vent.

Here’s how to contact me with your questions…

Gone are the pen to paper  days…so please  EMAIL ME  with your questions at…Pelarsen528@gmail.com

… In the subject line write…  LET’S CATCH UP  then add your question below. Keep it simple.

Be sure to let me know your first name and last initial and where you’re from.

Here’s a  “real “ recent question I received just…

Dear Pat, 

What ever happened to the glory days of being the generation that led the way for sooo many  great changes in this world? I feel like we no longer matter. What do you think? 

Roseanne  T. 

Athens, NY (a faithful Porcupine reader).

Hello Roseanne!!!!

Thank you for sharing such an important sentiment that I hear over and over again from so many in our age group. 

I have a better perspective on our ‘generation’ because I do talk to and write about us pretty much all the time.

Here’s some thoughts that I’ll share as a reminder IF any of us are feeling the pangs of irrelevance. 

WHO’S AGING? Yup we are… just like fine wine.

Life as a BOOMER is definitely about “slowing down and aging gracefully.

We’re a new kind of COOL, again. 

Feeling groovy, yes we are.

Better Boomers…this newest version has been there and done that …we’ll just let the 

Gen…”whatevers” try to catch up. They won’t.

WE CAN DISH IT OUT…like absolutely no other generation.

NO ONE’S washing our mouths out with Ivory any longer.

(well, maybe just a few of us still need that threat)

WE are the wise ones now…

You have a question about something that doesn’t involve artificial intelligence …

ASK AWAY.

WHAT ever happened to GROOVY…? We copyrighted it and it’s ours forever now.

We celebrate EVERYDAY WISDOM.

Curious about  us? Just ask already or forgetaboutit.

Slow and steady cause we can and have earned that right.

We Grew up and grew into our new roles as the BB’s…drum roll please.

We are pure joy regarding everything.

No generation laughs MORE.

We can give you advice from THEN and for NOW. 

Here’s an idea…speak up and stand tall.

We’re the wisdom whisperers and the advice givers. 

YOOOO HOOO!!!! We actually will listen when you need us to.

We’ll remain quietly respectful as you repeat yourself or  tell the same story several times because YOU forgot you did…NOT just a senior moment thing.

We have been the BEST of THE BEST…and then  this happened. THEY forgot we were.

Both literally and figuratively our amazing generation has such a wealth of real knowledge that we can share…face to face or via text and will continue to do so despite being overlooked.

That’s my “mic drop” moment and “I’m done!” 

Roseanne, THANK YOU FOR ASKING…

Sincerely,

Pat Larsen

Let’s Catch up Advice Columnist  for The Mountain Eagle Publication

Recent recipient of the award for TOP FIVE CHANGE MAKERS in Greene County.

Author of  Reflections. Anything but an Ordinary Life. (coming soon)

Weekly Fitness Baby Boomers @ The Shamrock House in East Durham

Do you have a question? Perhaps a memory you’d like to share…?

Some stuff that you’d like to stir up!

Please Email me at Pelarsen528@gmail.com 

THIS IS a column written by a BABY BOOMER for BABY BOOMERS.

So ask away. 



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Adaptive Sports Foundation Welcomes McClain to Board of Trustees

WINDHAM —  The Adaptive Sports Foundation (ASF), a nonprofit organization dedicated to empowering the lives of individuals with disabilities through adaptive sports, is pleased to announce the appointment of Rick McClain to its Board of Trustees. With a wealth of leadership experience and a deep commitment to ASF's mission, Rick brings invaluable expertise to the organization.

Rick McClain is a Senior Vice President at Fiserv, overseeing the firm's International Real Estate portfolio. Before serving in various leadership roles with the company domestically and abroad, Rick sailed aboard commercial ships as a Bridge Officer in the U.S. Merchant Marine, primarily in the Oil & Gas industry.

Rick's journey with the Adaptive Sports Foundation began in 2006 when he joined as an instructor trainee. Despite professional obligations leading him to Europe in 2018, Rick remained deeply engaged with the ASF, serving as a member of the Junior Board and playing a vital role in the organization's corporate fundraising efforts. His experience participating as an ASF runner in the 2023 TCS NYC Marathon further deepened his connection to the organization's mission and inspired his current efforts to become more involved.

"We are thrilled to welcome Rick McClain to the ASF Board of Trustees," says John Iannelli, Executive Director of the Adaptive Sports Foundation. "Rick's belief in our mission, extensive experience, and proven track record in fundraising and corporate engagement make him an invaluable asset to our organization. His ability to secure significant and recurring contributions from corporate partners has been instrumental in advancing ASF's initiatives and programs. We look forward to working together to continue making a meaningful difference in the lives of individuals with disabilities."

Rick holds an undergraduate degree from Maritime College and a graduate degree from NYU Stern School of Business. He is actively involved in several professional and community organizations, including the St. Andrew's Society of New York and the Maritime College Alumni Association. When he's not working, he enjoys spending time with his wife, Shannon, and their young daughter, Marion.

"As our newest ASF Board Member," says ASF Chair Vince Passione, "Rick brings a fresh perspective and deep desire to further the organization's impact. His leadership and strategic vision will undoubtedly contribute to ASF's ongoing success and help strengthen our community."

Rick embraces his new role on the ASF Board with enthusiasm. He is eager to expand his involvement with the organization and make a difference in the lives of individuals with disabilities. Currently celebrating the organization's 40th season, the ASF Board of Trustees is thrilled to welcome Rick to his new role at such an exciting and pivotal time in the organization's history.

About Adaptive Sports Foundation: The mission of the Adaptive Sports Foundation (ASF) is to empower lives through adaptive sports. The ASF provides profound, transformative experiences for children and adults with cognitive and physical disabilities, individuals with chronic illnesses, and wounded United States veterans through outdoor physical fitness, education, support, and community. 

For more information about the Adaptive Sports Foundation and its programs, visit adaptivesportsfoundation.org.


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Ashland Speaks




By Lula Anderson

Did you ever go up (or down ) Palenville Mountain, look at the houses hanging above the gorge, and wonder who lives there? Well, on Sunday, 40 members of WAJPL and Mt Top Golden Agers got a chance of a lifetime to take a tour of the "exclusive" parks in the Tannersville, Haines Falls area.  Thanks to DeDe Thorpe who came up with the brilliant idea, to George Kelly, Trustee of the Village of Tannersville who supported the trip, and gave a very generous donation to the Kaaterskill Trolley Co., to Kody Leach, the manager of the Kaaterskill Trolley Co who donated the use of the trolley to us and acted as tour guide so we could get through the small, twisty roads and a big thankyou to Barbie Swanson, resident of Twilight Park who, not only got us permission to enter the private grounds, but also, opened her house to us and provided us with cucumber sandwiches and iced tea.  Our Trolley driver, Kelly O'Brian did a wonderful job of maneuvering the roads, and was so considerate of our needs (i.e. adequate pit stops for Senior Citizens).  Thank you, Kelly.  

I, for one, very much enjoyed  the excursion into Onteora Park, as I used to clean many of the houses there.  What memories, what stories I had to share.  Seeing all of those houses makes me think back to the days when I could still run up and down the many stairs carrying my cleaning products.  Making the beds up "just so", as each person had his own way for the sheets and blankets to be put on.  That was before fitted sheets when we had to make tight hospital corners on the sheets.  What work we put into those houses, but we were lucky that they employed locals.  

The Ashland Community Church still has chicken halves to sell after their BBQ on Saturday.  As of this morning, they had 20 bags of 2 for 410.00 each.  Call Bob Ferrris at 518-734-3942.  

WAJPL Spring luncheon was held on Thursday at Prominence Restaurant near the Alpine Plaza in Windham/ Hensonville line.  We had a full house of 80 people, and the service was great.  Everyone went out fully sated, and most had doggie bags.  We had 30 baskets of items to be raffled off and all had a very enjoyable day sitting, eating, and catching up with their friends.  

Don't forget this weekend is Memorial Day weekend, and please come to the VFW on Rt 23 for the Chili Cookoff and fundraiser for the Veterans' Monument for the Town of Jewett.  On the way to, or from, make sure you stop at my house just before the turnoff to Rt 17, Jewett Mountain, on Rt 23 for my yard sale benefitting the Ashland Community Church.  

June 1 is the WAJPL Blood Drive at the Windham Ambulance/ Senior Citizen building from 9 - 1.   all 1-800-733-2767 or www.redcrossblood.org and enter sponsor code Windham  Ambulance.

AS I REMEMBER IT

Last week I shared Monday, Wash Day, and had many women, both on the trolley trip, and at our meeting, commenting on the memories that that brought back.  We laugh though, because most of them had already washed, dried, folded and put away two loads of laundry before they came to the meeting.  I know of one person who used to do her laundry at night when she couldn't sleep, because she no longer had to wait for a sunny day to put it on the line.  Anyhow......

Tuesday was the day to iron.  This was before the days of permanent press, when all the sheets, pillowcases, dresses, shirts, blouses and handkerchiefs had to be ironed.  The clothes that had been taken off the line still damp, had been rolled up and put aside for today.  There were no electric irons, and the irons we had were heavy, cast iron.  We had several of them, each about 3 inches long and about 2 inches wide without handles.  The wood, or coal stove would be going, and the irons would be put on the top to heat up.  Each iron had a slot in the center where a wooden handle would be hooked on.  Then you had to test to see if it was hot.  Spit on your finger and touch the iron quickly.  If it sizzled, it was ready. Then you would try it, gently, on the garment to make sure it wasn't too hot and burn an imprint into the item being ironed.  Unroll the laundry, pick out an item to be ironed, and make sure it was damp enough.  If not, it had to be sprinkled with water to build up steam.  We had a soda bottle with a sprinkler top.  Don't get the item too wet, but wet enough for the wrinkles to come out.  This was especially important for the items that were starched.  When the iron got too cool, it was put back on the stove and another was used.  Some had cast iron  irons that looked like the small travel iron of today,  without a cord, of course.  These had a spiral handle that was permanently attached.  Now a days, these are all doorstops.  

All day long, we would iron sheets, pillowcases, doilies, dresses, dress shirts, quick press pants to put a center crease in, fold or hang immediately so it wouldn't get creased.  Heat the iron, test the iron,  sprinkle, fold.  Such hard work.

Even with an electric iron, I could not manage my husband's uniforms as much as I tried.  To get Military creases was too difficult, so I  had to send those out to be professionally done.  

Today I say Thank you to the inventor of Permanent Press.  Do you even know where your iron is????



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Earth Day Cleanup a Great Success



Special thanks to Bobby J

TANNERSVILLE — Earth Day/24 held at the Mountaintop Library on May 4th was a great success. In addition to displays, presentations, workshops, plantings, and student environmental art, MTP encouraged residents and visitors alike to join together on Saturday May 18th at Rip Van Winkle Park - Tannersville - for trail cleaning and the removal of litter found on several local trails. The area was the park around Tannersville Lake, the playgrounds and beach area, and the trails that "reach out" from that location. Opened in 1998, "Huckleberry Trail" (Clean areas 1 and 2) runs 2.3 miles east and west from Tannersville Lake and Rip Van Winkle Park. The trail ends at Bloomer Road, Hunter on the west and at Clum Hill Rd., Haines Falls on the east. Area #3 is the public access are including the beach, playground and lakeside area. Area #4 is the connection trail from the Park to Main Street, Tannersville along the Sawkill Creek. The Sawkill joins the Gooseberry Creek at the park and runs into the Schoharie a bit further. This is a new trail area - presently being cleared and developed. Today it received special attention... and gave up its trash!   

The Trail cleaning took place over two hours and returned to the Park Pavilion at noon for a "Potluck" picnic. Pizza, Hot Dogs, cookies, cake, and other treats were offered and enjoyed. Meanwhile, the trash collected - recyclable material and standard trash - were separated and packed into trash bags supplied with gloves by the Catskill Watershed Corporation. These materials are made from environmentally friendly, biodegradable/compostable materials. As you can see in the group photo attached, the trash "haul" was quite the load.... 

And, the MTP group and its environmental volunteers.... including staffers from the Hunter Foundation.... smiled.... We encourage visitors and resident hikers to carry out whatever they carry in along the hike....  Leave no trash behind... "Carry In/Carry Out."



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