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Local History by Dede Terns-Thorpe - An Election in Hunter

Written By The Mountain Eagle on 11/6/24 | 11/6/24

First, a special thank you to historian Larry Tompkins for this interesting read from a 1913 Town of Hunter election booklet.  (110+ years ago).    

Voters were listed by their residence and the party they enrolled in: Democrat, Republican, Blank, Prohibition, Void, Independent, and Socialist. 

Here are a few things to share about the book:

1. When the voter’s residence was listed as Platt Clove, there was no "e" in the name. When Postmaster Thomas Seiffert took office on August 18, 1875, it was called the Platt Clove Post Office, no "e". In recent years, Platt picked up the letter "e.". Interesting.

2. In 1913, women were not listed. It took another seven years for the 19th Amendment to pass, giving women the right to vote.

3. Edgewood, near Lanesville, was still a hamlet in 1913. Postmaster Frank Martine, the first postmaster, kept it open from 1881 until 1915. Once the post office closed, the hamlet lost its identity and it blended into Lanesville. Edgewood now has its name back in its approximate location. (Sidenote: James Rusk was the first postmaster of the nearby and very important, but short-lived, Stony Clove Post Office; 1858-1862.)

4. Elka Park, when written as a residence, did not exist until 1889 when the Elka Club opened. The homes, and businesses, en route to the airport corner (today's intersection near county route 16 and Elka Park Road) was simply considered Tannersville. The area to the east must have been called Platt Clove as the St. Francis deSalle Church (in Elka) is often noted as the Platt Clove Catholic Church. Tidbit: Renwick Dibbell, the first postmaster, was responsible for the 1893 opening of the post office. The name then was Elkapark.Post Office. It changed again to the Elka Park Post Office. That name remains today. 

Thomas J. O’Hara and Charles E. Nichols signed and swore to the accuracy of the Certificate of Copy of Enrollment.


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Sgt. James F. Carty, DSC VFW Post 1545


As the commander of Sgt. James F. Carty, DSC, VFW Post 1545, there are certain tasks I find particularly challenging.

One of the hardest is supporting our members who are facing health issues. I make an effort to stay connected by visiting and calling them, hoping to lift their spirits.

Even though I may not have served alongside some of them in combat, they are still my heroes and valued comrades, integral to my life in this organization.

Any veteran who is looking for a job that requires a CDL license, I have some info. President Biden has signed VFW-supported S.656Veteran Improvement Commercial Driver License Act of 2023, into law. 

VFW National Legislative Deputy Director Kristina Keenan provided testimony on this legislation to both the House and Senate.

To address the nationwide shortage of commercial truck drivers, this law will reduce unnecessary red tape and allow veterans to use their GI Bill benefits at more commercial driver license (CDL) schools. 

Prior to now, certain for-profit CDL schools with programs already approved by VA were restricted from accepting the GI Bill at newly established branches for a period of up to two years.

Allowing new branches of VA-approved schools to receive education benefits will ensure veterans can attend these programs as soon as they are offered.

Today, I will be picking up the Patriot Pen and Voice of Democracy essays from WAJCS. The challenging part of this contest comes next: judging the essays.

They’re all so impressive that we invest a considerable amount of time selecting the top entries. Every participant will receive a certificate and a cash prize for their efforts. I’ll announce the winners in the coming weeks.

A reminder that this Veterans Day weekend, Briars & Brambles Bookstore in Windham on Route 296 will be donating a portion of their receipts to our post. 

Jennifer has generously supported us in this way for several years. So, be sure to stop by and pick up a good book to enjoy by the fireplace. 

I’m currently reading “Nuts” by Vincent Speranza, a WWII veteran of the 101st Airborne Division who fought in the Battle of the Bulge. Vince is quite the character, to say the least.

When I met Vince, he “attacked” me with his boisterous New York Italian voice, catching me off guard! Once I got him to relax, he opened up about how deeply he felt about the treatment of Vietnam veterans when they returned home. 

He expressed immense pride in walking in the victory parade in NYC and couldn’t understand why we were treated so poorly upon our return.

I had the honor of meeting him a few years ago at a reunion for WWII veterans, where Andrew Biggio interviewed many of them for his book, “The Rifle.”  

Andy is a Marine who served in Afghanistan and was a Boston police officer. He came to Windham to interview our WWII veterans for his book. 

My wife Lynn and I took a trip to Boston for the reunion and book signing, where over 90 WWII veterans were in attendance, including Tom Bristol, Lynn’s dad. 

Tom served as a tailgunner on a B-25 Mitchell Bomber in the China-Burma-India theater of the Pacific. He’s definitely one of those unforgettable characters, just like many others there.

I have regularly provided information about missing soldiers whose remains have been brought home by the government. I do this because it holds significant meaning for the families of those who fought and were unable to bring their loved ones back home.

The 700th missing Korean veteran returned was on September 9, 2024. He was Army Corporal Billie Charles Driver, 18, from Dallas, Texas, the Defense POW/MIA Accounting Agency marked the identification of the 700th missing personnel from the Korean War. Corporal Driver, member of the 1st Calvary Division, perished in the Battle of the Pusan Perimeter, Sept. 5, 1950.

“This is an incredible milestone,” said Kelly McKeague, DPAA director, “It is reflective of the talent and dedication of the Department of Defense personnel who dutifully serve this sacred mission.”

Also, announced today that U.S. Army Warrant Officer Albert R. Trudeau, killed during the Vietnam War, was accounted for Sept. 11, 2024.

In October 1971, Trudeau was assigned to the 68th Aviation Company, 52nd Aviation Battalion, 17th Aviation Group. On Oct. 26, Trudeau was serving as the pilot of a CH-47B “Chinook” helicopter when it went down over water in bad weather while flying from Tuy Hoa to Cam Ranh Bay in Vietnam. Remains of four of the 10 Soldiers on board were recovered during search and rescue operations following the crash, but Trudeau was not accounted for.

A reminder that this coming weekend, November 3, is Daylight Savings time. 

Keep all of our Missing in Action troops in your thoughts and prayers along with the troops still serving our country. God Bless America.

Marc Farmilette – Commander VFW Post 1545.


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Windham’s Rhoades Retires

By Michael Ryan

WINDHAM - Her last official day has come and gone as Account Clerk, but the title barely scratches the surface of what Bette Rhoades has meant, and will continue to mean, to the people of Windham.

Rhoades retires on October 31, closing the books after 25 years of keeping the town running fiscally smooth rather than clunking along clankety-clank.

“I have nothing but praise for Bette’s dedication,” says town supervisor Thomas Hoyt who would know first-hand.

“She started working here before things got all cranked up in Windham with so many more moving parts,” Hoyt says, referring to multiple infrastructure and community changes occurring over the past quarter century.

“Bette was called the Special Projects coordinator during all the craziness going on with roads and sewer, setting up all the billing and collecting.

“She kept track of everything with water and sidewalks, the ambulance. Fixed assets. She was also the supervisor’s secretary,” Hoyt says.

“Bette would go to the Coalition of Watershed Towns meetings with [the late town supervisor T. Patrick Meehan], helping break ground on developing that program,” working with all watershed communities in the complex interactions with the Department of Environmental Protection.

“You name it, she was it,” Hoyt says, eventually earning Rhoades the second of two nicknames she has been given over the years.

“Yes, it’s true,” Rhoades says, laughing. “I was the Sewer Guru,” which may have been, depending on your perspective, better or worse than the first.

“Bette grew up around here,” Hoyt says. “Her family goes back a long time in the Big Hollow valley which is what Maplecrest was called before it was Maplecrest. So she knows everybody and has a lot of institutional knowledge that you can’t teach.”

Rhoades, growing up a West, became the subject of light-hearted poetry. “My dad was good friends with her dad,” Hoyt says, grinning. 

“When she was little, Bette would wander over to the house, or whatever. My dad called her Bette West, the biggest pest in Maplecrest.”

That playful peskiness evolved into pecuniary persistence, not always a popular attribute with the folks obliged to pay the countless bills she prepared, but one paramount to pecuniary peace and prosperity.

Rhoades, in her career, was reliably precise, answering the phone at the office with the same country friendliness. “Good morning. Town of Windham, This is Bette speaking. Can I help you?”

It will be strange, not hearing that familiar greeting. And her anything-but-perfunctory professionalism was also evident in her retirement letter, submitted on October 7 to the town.

Rhoades wrote, “I would like to thank you for the opportunities, teachings and support that you have provided me over these many years with the township.

“I am more than grateful for the guidance and encouragement in pursuing my growth both professionally and personally.

“During the remaining weeks, I will complete all of my pending tasks. Further, I am willing to continue to assist in the training of my successor on an “as-needed” or part-time basis.

“I assure you that a seamless transition will be properly completed. It is with great sadness and melancholy that I submit this letter but wish to assure you that I will enjoy every moment of my new life of leisure.”

Living in the lap of luxury will include a retirement party happening at the Church of the Assumption, November 9, a journey to Greece with her hubby Bob, next year, and then…what?

“To be perfectly honest,” Rhoades says, “I don’t know what I’m going to do. Imagine that. Maybe clean my house.”

True to her word, Rhoades spent her final official workdays showing the ropes to her successor, Jessica Leto, an ongoing commitment..

No surprise there. And the 1968 Windham-Ashland-Jewett school graduate will, more likely than not, keep on doing what she has done on the job.

“I learned it,” Rhoades says, “as I did it.”


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Out Lexington Way

By Christine Dwon

Congratulations to the Hunter-Tannersville CSD Drama Club student directors, Allyson Kappel and Kadyn Maul and all the cast of Disney Pixar “Finding Nemo -  Kids” and student directors, Emma Constable and Lizet Molina Rodriguez and all the cast of Disney “High School Musical, Jr”, the Production Team and many others.  Both performances were held on Oct. 25 and Oct. 26 at HTC school in Tannersville and all the hard work and commitment by all involved resulted in wonderful performances and thoroughly enjoyed by everyone.  You all deserve a big round of applause! 

The West Kill/Lexington Community Improvement Association would like to thank everyone who came to the Halloween Brunch at the Community Hall in West Kill on Oct. 27.  As always, the food was plentiful and delicious.  The children had a great time painting pumpkins and the hall was beautifully decorated in the spirit of Halloween.

Friday, Nov. 1 from 4:30 p.m. – 7 p.m. is Hope Restoration Christian Fellowship 25th Annual Free Thanksgiving Dinner at the Hope Restoration Church, 117 NY 296, Windham.  First come, first served.  Same great chefs and same delicious meal.  No reservations required.

Nora Carr’s birthday is Friday, Nov. 1.

Monday, Nov. 4 is Emma Wilson’s birthday.

Also celebrating a birthday on Nov. 4 is Amanda Truesdell.

Diane Pendarvis and Roger Staley celebrate their anniversary on Tuesday, Nov. 5.

Nov. 5 is Sue and Alfred Truesdell’s wedding anniversary.

Best wishes to all.

Be sure to turn your clocks back one hour before going to bed on Saturday, Nov. 2 because Daylight Saving Time ends on Sunday, Nov. 3.

The annual Charge Conference for the Mountain Top Parish Churches is Sunday, Nov. 3 at 1:30 p.m. in the Kaaterskill UMC in Tannersville.

Election Day Turkey Dinner, Tuesday, Nov. 5 from 1 p.m. to 6 p.m. at the Lexington/West Kill UM church hall, 54 County Route 13A, Lexington.  Takeouts only.  Menu includes turkey, stuffing, mashed potatoes, gravy, green beans, pumpkin pie or apple pie, for a free will offering.

Greene County Department of Human Services – Greene County YMCA Veterans Day Luncheon is Friday, Nov. 8 from 12 p.m. - 1 p.m.  Free lunch for veterans of our communities.  Space is limited and you must be a veteran to attend.  Register to save your spot – 518-731-7529, cdymca.org.

Virgil E. Deyo #1327 American Legion Auxiliary is holding their annual Veterans Bake Sale on Saturday, Nov. 9 from 9 a.m. to noon at Jim’s Great American in Prattsville.  Buy, bake or donate, all proceeds benefit local veterans.

Lexington/West Kill UMC Administrative Council meeting is Wednesday, Nov. 13 at 4 p.m. in the church hall.

CPR Certificate Course BLSCPR, Wednesday, Nov. 13 from 5 p.m. - 9 p.m. at the Main Street Community Center, 5494 NY Hwy 23, Windham, will be led by Charlotte Osborn who is providing class at significantly reduced fee for the community.  Cost is $40.  Call 518-734-4168.

Thanksgiving Meal Kits will be available for anyone in the Mountain Top Community.  All requests must be in by Tuesday, Nov. 18.  Contact Amber Renner at 518-821-7198 or Antoinette Fischer at 518-821-9190.  Kits include one frozen turkey, two canned vegetables, cranberry sauce, gravy, mashed potatoes, stuffing, bread and pie.  Pick up is Friday, Nov. 22, 3 p.m. - 4 p.m. at the Hunter Elementary School cafeteria.  Delivery is available, ask about it when reserving a kit.  Kits are sponsored in part by The Hunter Foundation, The Platte Clove Community, Tannersville TOPS, HTC Community Families and Mrs. Puddle Ducks.

There will be a Spaghetti and Meatball Fundraiser Dinner for our community member, Mark Cline in his fight against Parkinson’s.  The dinner will be held on Saturday, Nov. 23, 4 p.m. - 7 p.m. at the Community Hall, 141 Spruceton Road, West Kill.  Suggested donation is $15, takeouts and dine in.  Tickets may be purchased in advance or available at the door.  Contact Hope at 917-903-0107 or Barbara at 518-821-5845.  Donations also requested for a raffle that night and desserts for the dessert table.

The Greene County Department of Human Services Senior Nutrition Program menu for the week of Nov. 3 – Nov. 8 is as follows:  Monday—Chicken Dijon, mashed potatoes, Monaco vegetable mix, peaches; Tuesday—Vote Today--Department and all meal sites closed--no meals; Wednesday—American Goulash, corn, green beans, cookies; Thursday—Lemon pepper fish, Sonoma vegetables, rice pilaf, butterscotch pudding; Friday—BBQ pulled pork, baked beans carrots, coleslaw, fresh fruit.  All persons age 60 and older and spouses are invited to join for lunch.  Suggested donation is $4 per meal.  Congregate dining reservations are required at least a day in advance by noon by calling the appropriate center.  The number to call for the Senior Service Center at the Jewett Municipal Building, Route 23C, Jewett is 518-263-4392.

Thank you to all law enforcement, firefighters, EMS, dispatchers, healthcare providers, volunteers, veterans and actively serving military, farmers, truck drivers and so many more.

Prayers for all who are dealing with loss, illnesses, healing, difficulties, our country, our military and their families, the world.

Until next week take care, be thankful, be respectful, be safe and please be kind to one another.  Your act of kindness may change someone’s life.




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BETTER THAN HEARSAY - Not Crashing the Joint

By Michael Ryan

LEEDS - It was pretty hard not to notice the election campaign signs for Congressman Marc Molinaro peppering the grassy knoll above the entranceway to Leeds Hose Company No. 1, last Friday morning.

There were probably 40 of them, and more had been taken down near the firehouse prior to the arrival of Governor Kathy Hochul, making room for parking along the main highway, on the outskirts of Leeds.

Hochul was in town to announce a $1 million grant which was met with jubilation by the Leeds volunteer firefighters and ladies auxiliary, and colleagues from throughout the State (please see related story).

The hearsay is that Molinaro, a Republican, was either not invited to attend the event in his own District by the Governor, a Democrat, or his campaign had heard his opponent, Democrat Josh Riley, was going to be there.

Maybe both or neither but Molinaro reportedly showed up in Leeds hours before Hochul, who rolled in with her entourage around high noon. 

Nobody I asked saw hide nor hair of Riley although he’s been very visible during the past few months with his campaign ads splattered all over the television, trying to keep up with similar splattering by Molinaro.

Their race is reportedly in the Twilight Zone of spending, somewhere in the $35 million range and rising, for one measly Congressional seat.

A logical question is…why would that election be worth winning - so much - that this kind of money is sensible to spend?

Even more curious is, why would it be so worth losing to be dropping that kind of dough on it? Where’s the money coming from? What’s it buying?

The further hearsay is that a lawn chair was made ready for Molinaro, atop the grassy knoll, looking down at where the Governor would be speaking. Seeing that would have been worth the $35 million.

Hochul was joined by State Senator Michelle Hinchey, Homeland Security Commissioner Jackie Bray, Greene County Emergency Services director John Farrell and Assemblyman Chris Tague, all seated in the front row.

They all gave speeches, except Tague, who clapped but didn’t rise from his seat when everybody else within eyeshot did, applauding the Governor’s financial windfall and words of admiration for firefighters.

Tague has had to deal with bad hips in the past but he was circulating in the crowd well enough, so it stuck out that he didn’t take part in the standing part of the standing ovations.

I bumped into the Assemblyman an hour or so after everyone was long gone, at a Stewart's Shop in Cairo, a few miles from Leeds.

We shot the breeze a bit, and I remembered the night I met Tague, walking on Main Street in Prattsville, the first time he was running for office.

His down-home style sounded real back then. It still does and I didn’t hear this from him, as the saying goes, but some drama apparently also surrounded his appearance in Leeds.

The way it was told to me, Tague was likewise not on the Governor’s list of initial invitees, snubbed in his own District, which he didn’t take sitting down, or then again perhaps that’s exactly what he did.

Tague, too, is from GOP country, and therefore in the minority in Albany. The way I hear tell, he got on the phone to the Governor’s office after getting left off the Leeds list and expressed his displeasure.

Over the years, Tague has done well with voters and firefighters in Greene County, a GOP stronghold, not surprisingly faring better than Hochul.

So he pushed a few buttons and said he would love to stage his own event across the street from the Governor, possibly drawing a better crowd. Ah, the beauty of politics!

I didn’t see the Molinaro signs when I arrived, needing to scope out a spot where I could get photos, encountering unexpected resistance to my plan.

Not being the sharpest tack in the box, I grabbed a chair close to the speaker’s podium with a good angle and plunked myself down.

It then occurred to me, with all the lurking security dudes and dudettes in shiny shoes and sunglasses, that I ought to make sure it was okay to suddenly pop up in front of the Governor like a Halloween ghost.

I went to a woman who appeared to be official. She said that wasn’t her call but that I should wait. She would go find that person.

Some very fidgety guy came over and said that wouldn’t work, nervously informing me that, in fact, I would have to move my seat.

“You’re blocking the aisle. It’s a fire hazard,” the guy said. I looked at some firefighters sitting in a row next to me and said, “imagine that. Me being a fire hazard. In a fire house!” I laughed. No one else did.

So I moved and as it turned out, I popped up in front of the Governor and she didn’t blink an eye. I admit, though, I think it would have been fun to watch her reaction if Molinaro and Tague had crashed the joint.


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Hochul Announces Leeds Hose Company Grant

By Michael Ryan

LEEDS - The air of mystery surrounding a visit by Governor Kathy Hochul to Leeds Hose Company No. 1, last Friday morning, dissipated into loud cheers and applause when the Governor announced the century-old volunteer firefighting unit would be receiving a $1 million grant.

Hochul, noting the funding was part of a new $25 million Volunteer Fire Infrastructure & Response Equipment (V-FIRE) grant program, lauded volunteers in the Greene County squad and statewide, saying, “our firefighters shouldn’t have to wait for upgrades and training.

“You need to have the resources to match the vital impact you have in your communities,” Huchul said, drawing more hurrahs when she added, “let’s do this every year,” wanting to make the dollars business as usual.

“To family members who have to have dinner alone and are waiting for their father or mother to come home, please know how grateful I am. I am so impressed and proud of all of you who stand up,” Hochul said.

Established by Senator Michelle Hinchey in the 2024 State Budget, V-FIRE supports volunteer fire departments statewide with grants for essential equipment and infrastructure upgrades to improve emergency response. 

Eighty-eight volunteer fire departments across the state of New York have been awarded funding through round one of the program. The full list of awardees can be found on the Division of Homeland Security and Emergency Services website.

“I championed the V-FIRE grant program to address a critical need—volunteer firehouses across New York State are struggling to afford the equipment and infrastructure upgrades they need to best serve our communities and protect themselves on the job,” Hinchey stated.

“These grants are more than a boost; they’re a lifeline, making many of these vital capital upgrades possible that would otherwise be out of reach. 

“I’m thrilled that the first round of funding is officially going out the door, and I’m committed to fighting for more next year to ensure this support reaches more firehouses statewide, especially here in the Hudson Valley,” Hinchey stated.

Greene County Emergency Services director John Farrell had a front row seat for the Governor’s announcement, joined by Division of Homeland Security and Emergency Services Commissioner Jackie Bray, Assemblyman Chris Tague and Hinchey.

“What a great day,” Farrell stated. “Volunteer fire departments are the backbone of emergency response in many of our towns and rural areas, like Greene County.

“They are made up of individuals who dedicate their time and energy, often at great personal sacrifice,” Farrell stated. 

“The [V-Fire] grant is structured to support departments made up of 100 percent volunteers. It emphasizes our recognition of the unique challenges these teams face,” Farrell stated.

“By targeting volunteer departments specifically, we ensure the funding goes directly to those who need it most,” Farrell stated.

“This targeted support alleviates some of the financial burdens these departments often experience, allowing them to redirect their limited resources toward essential infrastructure and life-saving equipment,” Farrell stated.

Leeds Hose Company No. 1 fire chief Cliff VanKleeck was in attendance as were members from Leeds and numerous other agencies across the State.

VanKleeck posed with Governor Hochul and Senator Hinchey for the presentation of the ceremonial, over-sized $1 million check.

The fire chief had been as much in the dark as anyone about the precise details of the Governor’s trip to the small Greene County town. 

While preparations for the massive press conference at the Main Street firehouse were impossible to hide, and it was known some money was arriving, “none of us had any clue about the amount,” VanKleeck said. 

“We were only told on Tuesday [of this week] that something was coming,” VanKleeck said, explaining the department applied for the funding in April.

None of that mattered when the Governor revealed the number. “This is going to be absolutely phenomenal for the community,” VanKleeck said.

“This will bring everybody together. It is opening a whole new world for everyone in Leeds,” VanKleeck said. It is expected that safety and efficiency upgrades will be made to the fire station, built in 1974.


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LEGISLATURE STUFF - Excess or Never Too Much Extra

By Michael Ryan

CATSKILL - An expected floor fight did not materialize when the Greene County Legislature held a public hearing on the proposed 2025 county budget, this past Monday night.

Lawmakers formally presented a fiscal package showing a $5 million rise in overall spending but no increase in the individual taxpayer burden.

Legislative budget office Charles Martinez (District 2, Coxsackie) unveiled the plan, last month, gleefully noting the tax levy to the 14 towns was remaining flat for a sixth straight year.

While total appropriations have climbed from $131 million to $136 million, the use of fund balances and estimated revenues produced an Even Steven scenario for se mules of taxation.

County administrator Shaun Groden, giving a power point presentation on the budget, pointed out the usual suspects are responsible for the appropriations ascent.

Those traditional taxpayer pickpockets include Personal Services, various contracts and contributions to the retirement system, etc.

Plugging in Fund Balances and a bounty in Sales Tax revenue (which has come in approximately $10 million above estimates) has let government leaders not raise taxes while also creating debate.

Even as Martinez was unwrapping the budget, legislative Majority Leader Matthew Luvera (District 1, Catskill) suggested too much stockpiling was occurring.

“We have to [put a maximum] on these excess fund balances,” Luvera said. “Come up with some plan so we can give this back to the taxpayers.

“Maybe we could do something that is best for each community,” Luvera said. “I’m not saying to give anyone a blank check. I’m saying let’s be honest with the People that we have a ten million dollar surplus.”

Legislature chairman Patrick Linger questioned the wisdom of removing dollars from the piggy bank and took exception to Luvera apparently suggesting the legislature was not being transparent.

“We just passed, by resolution, all of these other Reserve Accounts. I’m not sure how we could be more honest than that, saying what we are establishing and exactly what it is for,” Linger said.

“I’m not sure there are ever excess funds. We can never guarantee sales tax. I would rather have this money in the bank than disperse it as a one time deal, then have to go back to taxpayers when the economy dips.

“We are in an enviable spot compared to many other counties,” Linger said, “but it has taken [fiscal] discipline to get where we are now.”

Linger was not alone in thinking the money should stay in reserve, ready to handle unexpected surprises that are sure to arise, so it was expected the debate would extend to the public hearing.

It did not, though two residents from Luvera’s home district did voice their opinions at the hearing, as did former legislator Larry Gardner.

Daniel Ward, a Catskill resident and village trustee, said, “I come before the board tonight to discuss the allocation for the excess sales tax revenue while hoping to also open the minds of the board to look into giving back a percentage to the towns and villages on an annual basis.”

Referencing Luvera’s stated perspective on the funds, Ward said, “legislator Luvera’s idea has now sparked my interest.

“As a village trustee, I know how tight budgets for the towns and villages are on a yearly basis. By supporting the towns and villages this way, you will positively impact the taxpayers of the county…helping prevent the towns and villages from raising taxes to offset the costs that have drastically gone up and are not sustainable,” Ward said.

Joe Izzo a Catskill resident and former legislator who regularly speaks at the budget hearings, opined there is more to the matter than a welcome plethora of sales tax inflow and what to do with it.

“You are anticipating issues that may arise which is fine, but when that fund balance is so high, take a hard look at this budget and make some changes, even if only minor changes,” Izzo said.

“How much money have you saved taxpayers since 2020?” Izzo said. “Who is losing here? The taxpayers. They aren’t saving a dime in these budgets. You are doing nothing to save taxes in those towns and villages.

“If there is that much fund balance (which includes millions of dollars also set aside in multiple Reserve Accounts for specific purposes such as equipment replacement, etc.) you are budgeting wrong,” Izzo said.

Groden, following the hearing, responded to Izzo’s comments, saying, “we don’t over-budget. We underspend. There is a very big difference.

“We don’t artificially inflate the budget,” Groden said. “When we have things like job vacancies that are open for two months and budgeted for twelve months, it results in unspent money” on salary, health care, etc.

“From a budget standpoint, you want surplus. And we should want it. What do you want, deficits?” Groden said, emphasizing the proverbial gorilla in the room is that sales tax is “totally out of the control of the county.

“We have a long history of putting fund balances back into the budget. We have seen consistent growth the past couple of years [in sales tax] but we often worry how long that increase can occur.” Groden said.

It is uncertain if redistribution talks will resume prior to the budget passage, slated for later this month. Luvera, asked if he would again bring up the subject, said, “I’ve made my statement. That’s what I’m sticking to.”

Gardner, who retired from the legislature three years ago after a nearly 40-year career, recommended, “cautious, slow thinking before you give up funds. You want them at the county level for use for the public good.

“I remember when the county took over solid waste management. It cost a fortune. The towns were not able to do it anymore.

“Many things have come along and will come along that can’t be addressed at the town level. I urge you not to give the funds up,” Gardner said.


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